#Seymour duncan power stage 170 manual manual
#Seymour duncan power stage 170 manual plus

So far the 80/100 watt Bandit w/1 x 12' and the 2 x 12' Marshall have been more than enough. Looks like my 8 ohm cab should be fine then. Here are the specs for the similarly rated ISP Stealth Ultra Lite amp rated at 180W, so you can see when running into a 16 ohm cab, the output is significantly lower, is it still enough, maybe, 30W is still loud and there is more distortion in the power amp:ġ6Ω 10% THD = 62PEAK = 31WRMSI appreciate the info. So, if you are using a SS amp, it is best to get one with an output rating way higher than you think you might need, where with a tube amp, running at the edge is probably the best place to be. So people would put a ohm ss amp up against a 50 watt 'M' tube amp into a 16 0hm cab and the SS amp was putting out ~40W running flat out and sounding bad because it was at it's limit, and the tube amp was putting out ~70W and sounding better as it got louder. Also tubes compress very musically when you push them to their limits, ss does not sound good when run at it's limits, it doesn't compress, it just clips the top of the waveforms (yes, like a distortion pedal, except this is not a good place for that kind of clipping). If you were playing through a Bandit before and keeping up with the drummer, yes, the Powerstage should be fine, especially if you are using a 4 or 8 ohm cabinet, with a 16 ohm cabinet, it honestly might be running at the edge.įWIW, where most of this SS watts vs tube watts are different thing started was years ago, specs for tube amps were usually fairly conservative design specs, and usually RMS ratings (which is usually ~.7 of peak), and ss amp makers were generally using the peak output as their spec (and still do FWIW). So, if your cab is 8 ohms, you can expect about 85 - 90 watts out of the Powerstage, if it is 16 ohms, around 45 watts. With a solid state amp, you design for maximum output at the smallest load impedance you can handle, and the output roughly gets cut in half everytime the speaker impedance doubles. On a tube amp you would change the impedance selector to change where it taps the output transformer to maintain the load on the tubes which also keeps the output pretty much the same across different loads. The Powerstage 170 will give you 170 watts (peak I'm assuming, SD isn't very forthcoming with that info, at least not on the product page) into 4 ohms.

It's like SD saw the light.Yes it will work fine, it's one of many choices of power amps that are made just for this now days.ġ inch = 1 inch, 1 watt = 1 watt. The thing that always kills SS power amps for me is the lack of TMB controls. Will it replace a quality tube power amp? No it won't but as a tiny amplification device and a backup it's an excellent idea. The Kingsley demos on YT sound pretty good. Maybe you can read into it that with everything set at noon it's flat and with some EQ sculpting it becomes like a Twin (which I gather used to be a popular pedal platform).

I believe SD market the amp is 'flat' but SD do also say it's like the 'preamp' of a Twin Reverb which clearly isn't flat. 170 'authentic' SS watts (if SD aren't telling porkies) are going to be clearly louder and provide you with far more headroom for a modeller. You're not going to get 25 clean watts out of it. Also, we added a discrete push-pull output stage that increases the drive capability. The pedal retains the all discrete, class A, low-noise circuit design but the Gain control now can be turned down to unity (0dB).

The Rectoverb is 'only' 25watts and that is likely farting out and turning into a bit of a mess wattage. The new Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster is a re-issue of our original pedal, but with a few key upgrades. It sounds pretty solid considering he compared his hand wired Germino head and a SS MIAB pedal with the 170 and the difference wasn't night and day. Sirloin has posted about the 170 in the Amp forum. So I wouldn't recommend the Alto unless you're on a strict budget. I finally did a semi-serious side-by-side comparison between my Yamaha DXR10 and an Alto TS110a (I own 2 of those that I use as vocal monitors for singers) using my Helix. So, to the OP: The answer is: you need both.

#Seymour duncan power stage 170 manual plus

Plus it's a lot less to carry and set-up, especially since I have to bring a vocal monitor (FRFR) to most of my gigs anyway. But on gigs, using the FRFR is more convenient, and in the context of the on-stage mix (and using earplugs ), the tones are close enough to what I'd get using a guitar cab, AND, I don't have to deal with the beaming issues from guitar cabs.

#Seymour duncan power stage 170 manual manual

Here's where I am on this:įor playing at home, using a power amp plus guitar cab is a lot more enjoyable than using FRFR (unless you're playing really loudly - things kind of balance out at high volumes) - especially since I can position my body and ears in the 'sweet spot' in the room relative to the cab. control plus a Bright Switch which adds presence w/ manual and power supply.